If it's not a set of Ludwig's it's not a set of Drums. "D"em "W"ankers overcharge for hardware including lugs, nuts etc. made in Taiwan. And the sound of their drums don't come anywhere close to the sound of LUDWIG. They're a fad that need to be muffled in order to eliminate the outrageous over tones. I feel like I got beat investing in one of their sets when all the while I had and still have the best "Ludwig's baby, nothing else will do.